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TIBETAN MASTIFFS COLORADO, TIBETAN MASTIFF PUPPY RESERVATIONS IN COLORADO
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WARNING! "COULD" BUYING AN AKC DOG PUT YOU AT RISK FOR THREATS AND SLANDER? I BELIEVE SO. WITH SO MUCH MONEY RIDING ON THE DOGS; SICK PEOPLE ARE MAKING SLANDEROUS AND FALSE ACCUSATIONS ABOUT OTHERS. I would be happy to share links to these self proclaimed "ELITIIST'S" Facebook "HATE" sites with you so you can see for yourself how they slander and lie about others, all in the name of selling dogs, website products, magazine articles, cards, etc. EMAIL ME FOR LINKS. Why? It's all about the money; not the dogs. It's insane how these people act. Usually, it is after they get a dog from another breeder. You won't believe how vicious they are until you read them! These are mainly AKC | so-called "ELITE BREEDERS i.e."elitists") who are so crazy; words cannot describe it. They will threaten to sue anybody who shares their personal experiences with them. I do respect the breeders who are not partaking in this unethical behavior and I and you should take note of the names of those breeders who are participating on these "HATE" sites. Just remember it could be you, their customer, whose personal and confidential information they will post illegally. Think about it. This site is about my experience with AKC breeders and people who make a living off dogs. It is basically a generalization of the characteristics it has taken me seven years to realize. If you ask questions, they will attack you. If you question them, they will attack you. They are a very nasty group of people I.M.O. I believe the root of all these nasty people is the AKC; based on what I have witnessed. Again, just my opinion. I see how they attack people and when it comes right down to it; it's about show competition and dog sales. That is why I won't register my dogs with AKC. After years of seeing all the ins and outs, the ways they slander and lie about people, I refuse to give AKC another dime. It's not about one breeder or another; it's about the whole system that allows them to act like they do.
TIBETAN MASTIFFS AS SERVICE DOGS?
Some breeders advertise Tibetan Mastiffs as service dogs; I would be very skeptical. Talk to breeders who have been in the breed for many, many years. Here is a link that you might find helpful. MEETING AND EXCEEDING THE ADI REQUIREMENTS. PAY PARTICULAR ATTENTION TO NUMBER 9. QUOTE: " The client must abide by the ADI Minimum Standards of Assistance Dog Partners. Prior to placement every service dog must meet the ADI Standards and Ethics Regarding Dogs, be spayed/neutered and have current vaccination certificates as determined by their veterinarian and applicable laws. It is the program’s responsibility to inform the client of any special health or maintenance care requirements for each dog." UNQUOTE WITH SO MANY PEOPLE ABUSING THE SERVICE DOG CERTIFICATION STATUS, BE SURE TO SPEAK "DIRECTLY" TO THE PERSON WHO CERTIFIED TIBETAN MASTIFFS AS SERVICE DOGS. ASK TO SEE THE TRAINERS CREDENTIALS. Tibetan Mastiffs are typically very guard, protective, and aloof. These are probably not the best qualities for a service dog and I would question very carefully those making such claims. I am not an expert by any means, but it would be prudent for anybody to find a breeder who has been in the breed for 20+ years who could answer this question for you. There are a lot of new comers trying to make a name and money for themselves. You never know what claims are true and which are not. Saying a parent is a service dog really means nothing to me as each puppy has a personality of it's own. If by chance, there is a Tibetan Mastiff who is a service dog; it by no means is a guarantee that each and every one of it's offspring will have the same qualities suitable for service dog work. Just my opinions. I have the facts regarding some claims. Unlike these "self proclaimed" ELISTIST BREEDERS, I actually do my research and get the facts. Email me for more info
BECAUSE OF RECENT ACTIVITIES WITH "SHADY" BREEDERS I WILL BE PUTTING DNA ON FILE OF ALL OF MY DOGS BEFORE ANY BREEDINGS TAKE PLACE. RECENTLY SOME BREEDERS HAVE BEEN GETTING OTHER BREEDER'S DOGS UNDER QUESTIONABLE CIRCUMSTANCES. (i.e. sending people to buy puppies under false pretenses and registering them without the breeder's permission). THESE ARE BREEDERS WHO PROBABLY WILL RESIST DNA TESTING ON THEIR DOGS. WHY? YOU DECIDE? I FEEL THAT IF YOU HAVE NOTHING TO HIDE; WHY HIDE IT? WHY WOULD ANY HONEST OR REPUTABLE PERSON DO THIS?
I AM NOT TRYING TO MAKE PUPPY SALES WITH THE INFORMATION ON THIS SITE. I AM NOT A BIG TIME BREEDER; NOR A THREAT TO ANY OTHER BREEDER. I AM NOT BREEDING FOR MONEY, OR THE SHOW RING. I AM NOT ABOUT "CONVINCING" YOU TO BUY A PUPPY FROM ME. I JUST HOPE TO SAVE SOMEBODY ALL THE GRIEF AND HEARTACHE I EXPERIENCED WITH AKC SHOW BREEDERS AND TO BE CAREFUL OF THOSE NOW MIGRATING TO UKC TO BOOST THEIR PUPPY SALES. BUY WHAT YOU LIKE BUT BE CAREFUL. EVERYBODY WILL BE VERY NICE TO YOU. DO YOUR RESEARCH. I HAD NEVER OWNED A"PAPERED" DOG BEFORE. I GUESS I SHOULD CONSIDER MYSELF LUCKY :). RECENTLY, I HAVE COME TO THE CONCLUSION THAT A COUPLE OF THESE TIBETAN MASTIFF PEOPLE ARE JUST FLAT OUT BAT S _ _ T CRAZY! DID YOU KNOW THAT WE HAVE A HUGE "DILEMMA" WHEN IT COMES TO TIBETAN MASTIFFS? THAT THE SKY IS FALLING ON OUR POOR TIBETAN MASTIFFS AND SOON THEY WILL BE ON THE BRINK OF EXTINCTION? HOLY COW; THE WORLD IS COMING TO AN END! WELL CALM DOWN NOW FOLKS. DON'T YOU THINK THAT SOUNDS A LITTLE EXTREME? I CERTAINLY DO. I THOUGHT NATURAL SELECTION WOULD TAKE CARE OF MIS FITS LIKE THIS BUT I GUESS WE WILL JUST HAVE TO LEARN TO IGNORE THOSE STRANGE BEINGS ON THE FRINGE. NO WORRIES, I KNOW ALL THIS IS HARD TO "DIGEST" :) AND HARD TO BELIEVE, BUT I HARDLY THINK THE TIBETAN MASTIFF IS GOING TO GO AWAY SOON. THERE ARE PLENTY OF THEM OUT THERE. TONS AND TONS! JUST GO TO ALL THE PUPPY SItES AND YOU CAN FIND HOARDS OF EM. THEY ARE NOT A "RARE" BREED ANYMORE; THAT IS FOR SURE. YOU WILL FIND BIG ONES, SMALL ONES, GOLD ONES, RED ONES AND EVERY OTHER COLOR YOU CAN IMAGINE IN A PRICE RANGE THAT FITS YOUR BUDGET. LOTS OF CHOICES. DON'T LET THE "FEAR MONGERS" WORRY YOU. GET WHAT YOU LIKE AND JUST BE HAPPY. JUST REMEMBER THE TIBETAN MASTIFF IS NOT FOR EVERYBODY. THEY ARE A 'GUARD" DOG . THEY TAKE THE JOB OF GUARDING "THEIR" FAMILIES SERIOUSLY AND AS SUCH, NEED TO BE INTRODUCED TO ALL THOSE ENTERING YOUR HOME. ONE SO CALLED ELITISTS WHO RANTS AND RANTS ABOUT HEALTH, TESTING, ETC., ETC. DEFENDS BREEDERS WHO KEEP 25 + DOGS IN 4 X 12 X 5 FOOT KENNELS DAY IN AND DAY OUT. ANY DECENT TIBETAN MASTIFF BREEDER WILL TELL YOU THIS DOES NOT ONLY NOT CONTAIN A TIBETAN MASTIFF; IT COULD MAKE THEM AGGRESSIVE. I WONDER IF THIS SELF PROCLAIMED ELITIST'S BREEDER FRIEND TESTS THEIR DOGS? PEOPLE WHO LIVE IN GLASS HOUSES, SHOULD NOT BE THROWING STONES.
I urge everybody to be wary of some self proclaimed "Elitists" within the Tibetan Mastiff community who actually think like this and call good people 'terrorists" among other names and make slanderous statemeWhat causes people like this to resort to such outrageous behavior over dogs? When people have such little respect for their fellow man; do their words mean anything? In a way I feel sorry for people like this and whatever disorder may be causing this behavior. Instead of making enemies with everybody on the planet; their hate is preventing them from actually getting to know the good people whom they are spreading slanderous lies about. This is certainly a mystery to me. When simple acts of kindness triggers these reactions; there is no explanation. These "Elitists" have pretty much alienated themselves from breeders around the globe. I do not think it is normal at all. AKC is the root of this problem in my opinion. It all boils down to "competition" and money. It's not about the dogs. The lack of policing of it's registry is the problem. If they were doing the job that they are being paid to do; there would not be the "fraud" that causes all this insane behavior. They need to "keep people honest" and most of the slander and mud slinging would go away. The competition causes people to lie and do unethical things. These people will continue to "bash" other people's dogs but like I always say; buy what you like and don't listen to what these "consumed" people will tell you. Let them live in their own little perfect "Tibetan Mastiff" world, whatever that may be but remember that they themselves readily admit what I have been saying all along - "championships" mean absolutely nothing. They can be bought. AKC is all about the money and it creates hate by letting the things it does go on. Listen to your heart and when you find the right dog, you will both know it. I hope you will sign the petition for the AKC to require DNA testing which I believe will put an end and help to stop "over zealous" people from abusing people whom they feel are a threat to them and most importantly from "using" the animals that cannot speak for themselves.
PETITION AKC TO REQUIRE DNA PROFILES TO BE PUT ON FILE BEFORE BREEDINGS OCCUR OR DENY REGS - SIGN HERE
BEWARE OF SO CALLED "ELITE" BREEDER SITES. AFTER ALL, WHAT IS AN ELITIST? QUOTE FROM WIKIPEDIA: "Elitism is the belief or attitude that some individuals who form an elite—a select group of people with a certain ancestry, intrinsic quality or worth, high intellect,wealth, specialized training or experience, or other distinctive attributes—are those whose influence or authority is greater than that of others; whose views on a matter are to be taken more seriously or carry more weight; whose views or actions are more likely to be constructive to society as a whole; or whose extraordinary skills, abilities, or wisdom render them especially fit to govern.
Alternatively, the term elitism may be used to describe a situation in which power is concentrated in the hands of a limited number of people. Oppositions of elitism include anti-elitism, egalitarianism, populism and political theory of pluralism.Elite theory is the sociological or political science analysis of elite influence in society: elite theorists regard pluralism as a utopian ideal.
Elitism also refers to situations in which an individual assumes special privileges and responsibilities in the hope that this arrangement will benefit humanity or themselves. Elitism is closely related to social class and what sociologists call-social stratification. Members of the upper classes are sometimes known as the social elite. The term elitism is also sometimes used to denote situations in which a group of people claiming to possess high abilities or simply an in-group or cadre grant themselves extra privileges at the expense of others. This form of elitism may be described as discrimination." UNQUOTE
I.E. SOMEONE WHO SPEAKS DOWN TO OTHERS, IS CONDESCENDING, AND WILLING TO USE OR ABUSE ANYTHING / ANYBODY WHO GETS IN THEIR WAY.
These opinions are based on my experiences with most AKC show breeders. I have found that the AKC breeders that are judges are the worst. They never go directly to a breeder as they demand others do. They generally friend people who have other breeders dogs in order to get their lines behind the scenes. I feel that these AKC judges / breeders are very unethical and I personally have found them to be people I would never deal with again. I would much rather deal with an honest person who will go directly to somebody instead of getting their lines unethically and then bashing them behind the scenes. Believe me; these are the ones you want to stay clear of!
I hope by sharing my experiences I can save someone the emotional harm, and stress inflicted upon me by several AKC breeders. Based on my experiences I cannot recommend getting a dog from most AKC TM breeders. I was an unsuspecting newcomer who suffered greatly by believing that "breeder of merit" and judges were a sign of trust. "We got our first Tibetan Mastiff from a nice man nearby and were very happy with our new family member. Then when the breeder died we fostered some of the puppies and somehow got mixed up with a local AKC breeder who gave us what we thought was a wonderful opportunity to "co-own" a dog with them. Little did we know what that meant and the emotional damage we would experience. I recommend non AKC breeders or small "hobby" breeders.
I read it has been said that some of the most unpleasant humans on the face of the earth have been drawn to the breed to protect their own aggressive and hostile reputations and project them onto their exotic charges. This seems to be a very true and sad assessment with the Tibetan Mastiff. We had never owned an AKC registered dog prior to getting our first TM and just by doing what we thought was an act of kindness to a family in need we got sucked into a group of people whom we wish we never met. There are some very long time breeders out there and "corporate puppy mills" that use people for there own advantage and they do not seem to care about the people they hurt in the process.
Here is what I have learned:
Stay away from breeders who are constantly bragging about "championships"
Avoid breeders who breed multiple breeds.
Avoid contracts where you owe puppies back in the future or require showing.
I was mislead into believing all these things were a sign of quality.
Avoid highly inbred lines. This is called C.O.I. (co-incidence of inbreeding) Just search the subject and you can find many articles of explanation.
Avoid certain dogs in pedigrees
The following links show to what measures people so obsessed with other people's dog are capable of. Dog poisoned at Colorado Dog Show and Dog Poisoned at famed Dog Show. Is this what AKC show scams result in? What kind of person would poison a dog in order to win? Exactly why I want no part of AKC or people like this.
IS AN AKC CERTIFICATE A GAUARANTEE OF QUALITY OR ACCURACY? Read this article
IMPORTANT INFORMATION WHEN RESEACHING BREEDERS
QUESTIONS TO ASK
HOW MANY LITTERS AND HOW MANY BREEDS ARE THEY PRODUCING? TIBETAN MASTIFFS REQUIRE A LOT OF SOCIALIZATION. SOCIALIZATION BEFORE AND AFTER YOU GET THEM IS PROBABLY THE MOST IMPORTANT FACTOR IN PRODUCING A GOOD, STABLE, AND CONFIDENT PUP. DOING WHAT YOU LOVE AND DOING WHAT YOU "HAVE TO DO" REALLY MAKES A DIFFERENCE. BREEDING FOR A LIVING AND BREEDING FOR THE "LOVE OF THE BREED" ARE TWO DIFFERENT THINGS.
I am not in the "business" of breeding dogs and hope that these suggestions might be able to save somebody else what we went through. Prior to owning our first Tibetan Mastiff we only had rescue dogs. We never had an AKC registered dog. I am sorry to say that I feel the AKC is not an ethical organization at all and will never be able to support them until they can guarantee me as an owner and dog lover; they will police their registry. I don't want my dogs being put at risk to be stolen. The AKC has not proven to me that they care about the dogs. They have also demonstrated to me that they do determine ownership, contrary to what they say. This should be of great concern to anybody with an AKC registered dog. Your rights as an owner seem to be debatable with the AKC.
With so much money riding on show dogs; it is never good. Actually, I find many of these show breeders to be dysfunctional and quite scary. They actually have "their" people contact you to "keep track of you and your dogs". I get erroneous emails from these scary people. They will have others try to buy puppies from you. They will literally "make stuff up" about you and your dogs in order to keep their "dog businesses" going and keep prices up. It is very scary to be involved in any way with these people. They use social media to do their dirty work and cyber stalk you. It is absolutely crazy and the AKC and it's show crowd remind me very much of Washington D.C. and it's "lobbyists". These type of people make it bad for small hobby breeders who try to improve the breed. I know that I have some very nice dogs but I don't want to be like them in any way, shape or form.
Many of the breeders I have met have taught me never to trust people. I know that is a sad and I am sure there may be a few that are good. In the meantime I hope I can help to save somebody else the pain and financial losses I have felt at their hands. I have truly never met a group quite like these Tibetan Mastiff breeders, especially the ones I have dealt with personally. I rented "Best in Show" and found it to be a very accurate depiction of them. Sadly, they all flock together and switch sides when they want to "target" somebody they view as a threat or willing to "speak out" against them and cruelty to animals. You can do everything they say to do; and still be the "bad guy" because you will not play their game and be like them. Block, bash and trash . Honesty always costs you friendships; but I believe it makes it a lot easier to live with yourself and the better person. Having been "around the AKC block", I can tell you that getting an AKC dog is not a guarantee of anything. Bottom line, do your research, don't listen to the "selling spiel", and buy the dog YOU LIKE, not somebody else's opinion based on a worthless AKC certificate. Read on.
Ask to see the dog's registration papers. Who owns the dog? Do they have a job? Is selling dogs what they do for a living? For your own peace of mind I believe you want to be sure the person in possession of a dog; is the person who is on their registration certificate. Personally, I would prefer to know that the owner of a dog is taking care of the dog themselves. I think that shows that they care about their dogs and if it isn't the owner; you want to be sure the dog is not stolen or some other "pyramid" scheme is not going on with the dog. My experiences with people who are breeding for a living have not been good. I feel that not only do the dogs suffer; so does the person who deals with such people. I have found that when a mortgage payment or living depends on a puppy sale; it never is good. People will do unethical things that people who are doing it as a hobby and love for the breed would not do. Money is the root of all evil.
There is no guarantee that the pedigree you receive from AKC is accurate. Some breeders do their own artificial inseminations so they can just find a dog they want and get it's semen, artificially inseminate their dog, and register the dog using one of their puppy registration papers. Believe it or not? AKC does not require any kind of DNA testing or owner signature for permission to register dogs. I know of one instance where they registered a puppy from a breeder that they themselves have suspended! Based on what I have seen, your AKC certificate is a WORTHLESS PIECE OF PAPER!. Some very unethical breeders I have met know all the ins and outs. Remember to ask to see the registration for the dogs in their possession and know that AKC is not policing their registry. AKC's lack of policing and policies enable the possibility of fraud, I believe that registering a dog with AKC is puts them at risk to be stolen or worse. The only way to prevent this is to sterilize puppies before they leave your possession. This is good for the consumer because they are getting better dogs for a more reasonable price and "no strings" attached. It is good tor the puppy because it is not being put at risk to be stolen by one of these unscrupulous breeders. A sterilized dog is of no value to them.
I have met a few of these breeders personally and know when people do not have "real" jobs, and dog sales are their means of survival; they have a lot of time on their hands. They email people undercover to get information about you and your dogs. Sort of like cyber stalking. Some breeders claim they will never allow their dogs to be in shelters. Could these lead to the early demise of many dogs? Breeders who point fingers at others for placing dogs in no-kill shelters need to take a long hard look in the mirror. What are the alternatives they use in order to "save their reputations" ? I have found that breeders who say these things leave many questions unanswered. I also believe It promotes the practice of "getting rid" of dogs rather than "saving them". Ask to speak with the former owner of a dog they have taken back. Ask to speak with the new owner of the dog they "claimed" to have re homed. Where do these dogs go? They bash people for trying to seek help with no kill shelters in order to save a dog; rather than putting it down. Some of these breeders are knowingly breeding aggressive lines; which could result in a dog being put down. I believe it is O.K. to ask for help when the life of a dog depends on it.
When I say "show" breeders; I am speaking of the "American" Kennel Club breeders. In Europe people show their own dogs and so I am not speaking of European Clubs. I think they would be just as disgusted with the "American Kennel Club" as many people here in America are if they had the same system.
BE WARY OF BREEDERS BREEDING ONE YEAR OLD UNTESTED DOGS!
IT IS HIGHLY UNETHICAL and could be a sign of a puppy mill!
What is the purpose of breeding several breeds and multiple litters? WHY HAVE 25+ DOGS? HOW CAN ONE PROPERLY CARE FOR AND SOCIALIZE 25+ DOGS. HOW CAN ONE KEEP 25+ DOGS IN THEIR HOME OR INTEGRATE THEM AS FAMILY MEMBERS IN THEIR EVERYDAY LIFE?
AND CERTAINLY DO NOT PAY $2500.00 - $6000.00 FOR A PUPPY BEFORE YOU RESEARCH THE PEDIGREES! SOME PEOPLE WILL POST A LOWER PRICE AND THEN ASK FOR MORE. BE VERY CAREFUL.
AKC REGISTERS UN-REGISTERED DOGS!
Some breeders are advertising their dogs on for $2500.00 + . The Tibetan Mastiff is no longer a rare breed based on the 10+ pages of litters advertised on Puppyfind and other sites. With such a limited gene pool, most of these puppies have similar pedigrees.
Some people have cautioned friends of mine not to reveal what you know about certain health issues because there is so much "money riding on the dogs" (i.e. AKC showing) Here are a few quotes taken from a person who has a lot of information about Tibetan Mastiffs. They asked people to share:
Quote: "So why would I even have any concern about the introduction of crossbred Chinese dogs into the Tibetan Mastiff gene pool? Simple answer: Deception. I really despise deception. And inaccuracy. I despise that, too. Breeders who crossbreed authentic Tibetan dogs with standardized breeds such as Neapolitan Mastiff, Spanish Mastiff, Chow, Newfoundland, Shar Pei – and then sell the descendants as “Tibetan Mastiffs – are deceiving their buyers. They are lying. And the other thing they are doing is corrupting the pedigree histories of all future descendants of these dogs. Everyone knows that plenty of that has gone on *within* the TM gene pool: Breeders putting the wrong names onto the registrations of pups they produce, either inadvertently because they have multiple litters on the ground at the same time and do not practice good kennel management. Or intentionally because pups registered as by “Champion XXX” (who is sterile) are likely to sell better than pups by his brother who is the actual sire. " and " I'm afraid that most registries are too greedy to look carefully at the validity of the pedigrees being submitted to them. Each one they reject = a financial loss to them...." Unquote.
WHAT IS A SNOW LION TIBETAN MASTIFF? BASICALLY IT IS A COLOR AND NOTHING MORE. KESANG CAMPS STRAY GENIE IS PICTURED BELOW. SHE IS NOT A SNOW LION. HER PARENTS ARE KESANG CAMPS SENGI X KESANG CAMPS NUBIA. NUBIA'S FULL SISTER IS KESANG CAMPS VIKA; NONE OF WHICH ARE CONSIDERED SNOW LION. She does have the "e" cream gene. A geneticist explained the results to me and true cream dogs carry the "e" gene and do not have black anywhere on their coats. Buyer Beware! Some people will advertise their dogs as "snow lions" just to charge a lot of money.
AKC SHOW WORLD A SCAM? I THINK SO. FOLLOW THE MONEY! AKC is a JOKE. I QUESTION MANY OF THE PEDIGREES AND I BET MOST OF THEM ARE NOT ACCURATE AT ALL. I WONDER WHAT DNA TESTING WOULD REVEAL. PERHAPS THAT IS WHY THEY DO NOT REQUIRE DNA ON ALL PARENTS OF LITTERS. IT WOULD TAKE A BIG CHUNK OF MONEY OUT OF THEIR POCKETS.
MAKING THEIR OWN MAJORS - "DEEP POCKETS" AND THE SHOW WORLD - THE SHOW WORLD ILLUSION. I'm thinking Westminster is just about the money?
When a breeder brings enough of their own dogs to a show where they know there is no competition to make their own major and get a championship for their dog. SCAM! DON'T BELIEVE THEIR MARKETING TOOLS! FOLLOW THE AKC MONEY TRAIL.
GETTING THE DOGS IN FRONT OF JUDGES ALL OVER THE COUNTRY - "CAMPAIGNERS" (GREAT ARTICLE EXPLAINS ALL ABOUT "FOLLOWING THE SHOW WORLD MONEY TRAIL!)
This is when a dog goes for months on end to shows all over the country. Doesn't matter if there is any competition because the purpose is for judges all over the country to "get an eye" on the dog and it's "well connected" handler. That way, when Eukanuba or Westminster comes up; the judges will recognize the handler and most likely that dog will win. It's all about following the money!ARE YOU GETTING A BETTER DOG? BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES THE ANSWER IT NO!
Quote from article referenced above:
Quote: "We asked Wayne Pacelle, president and CEO of the Humane Society of the United States: "If I'm looking to buy a dog and I see it has been AC-inspected, AKC-registered, does that mean I'm getting a good dog?"
"Absolutely not. It really is just a piece of paper without any value for dog welfare," Pacelle told us." UNQUOTE
BEWARE OF AKC BREEDERS/JUDGES - CORPORATE PUPPY MILLS?
PEDIGREE FRAUD – AKC STUD BOOK? and the list goes on and on.
I LIKE OTHERS BELIEVE THAT AKC "CHAMPIONSHIPS" MEAN NOTHING. WITH THE RIGHT HANDLER AND ENOUGH MONEY ANY DOG CAN WIN. BE SUSPICIOUS OF THOSE WHO DO NOT SHOW THEIR OWN DOGS. THEY PROBABLY WOULD NOT WIN WITHOUT A POLITICALLY CONNECTED HANDLER. I WAS TOLD BY A HANDLER THAT AKC CAME UP WITH A GRAND CHAMPIONSHIP CATEGORY BASICALLY TO KEEP THE MONEY FLOWING AND IF YOU ARE SHOWING YOUR OWN CHAMPION AGAINST A "HANDLER'S DOG" YOU MOST LIKELY WILL NOT WIN. IT'S ALL ABOUT THE MONEY AND NOT THE DOG BASED ON WHAT I HAVE BEEN TOLD AND EXPERIENCED. Be wary of those show breeders who "market" their dogs". Use your eyes! They will go on about a dog's parents and pedigree; but just because a dog had a certain parent does not mean it will be anything like the dog. It all boils down to what you want, not what they try to "sell you". Don't let anybody try to tell you to look for something that really isn't there.
With so much "politics" in showing I cannot really think why anybody would want to enter their dog in a dog show? Based on what I have seen and experienced with all show people it is only about the owner's ego and the money they think it will bring them in the end; not the dog. Seriously, think about what a huge waste of time it is and the fact that Tibetan Mastiffs would much rather be a home, sitting on the couch or in the yard guarding their territory! Why make them do such frivolous activities that they do not even enjoy?
Breeders who are judges? Could politics play a huge part in the AKC? CHAMPIONSHIPSHIPS AND POLITICS. Based on my experiences I believe it is all about the money and those who make it happen. I have seen images that have been photo shopped of Tibetan Mastiffs where the original photo looks nothing like the "enhanced" one. Some show people will do anything to sell their dogs by means of deception. Don't fall for the deceptive "show crowd" who are only interested in "peddling their dogs" any way they can.
You can find many puppies all over the INTERNET for a fraction of the price of these AKC show breeders with similar pedigrees. I think smaller kennels who only produce one breed are far better. I find that the small non AKC breeders are far more ethical and honest. As stated below these are my opinions based on my experiences.
SOME THOUGHTS ABOUT DOG SHOWS
I WAS AT A DOG SHOW THE OTHER DAY AS A SPECTATOR AND I FIND IT VERY AMUSING HOW SOME BIG BREEDERS "PUMP THEMSELVES" UP. THEY WILL GET ON SOCIAL MEDIA AND REPORT "TO THE FOLLOWERS" HOW THEIR DOGS TOOK BEST OF SHOW, OR BEST OF WINNERS, ETC. WHEN IN REALITY THEY WERE THE ONLY DOG OR BITCH ENTERED IN THEIR CATEGORY. THEN THEY WILL BRING A COUPLE OF THEIR OWN DOGS AND GUESS WHAT? THEY WIN AGAINST THEIR OWN DOG. SILLY ISN'T IT? I THINK SO? DO NOT FALL FOR THE CHARADE OF THE AKC SO CALLED "CHAMPIONSHIP" FARCE. THEY ARE REALLY NOT THE BEST DOGS.
I am not an expert nor do I claim to be. I have had to learn from experience because it seems that many of the long time breeders do not want to "mentor" new people; they only want to take advantage of them. When you are on to their game and see the lies; they will trash you immediately to cover up for themselves. Like I said; I do not trust most of them here in the U.S. Only a few.
I think UKC is a much fairer venue. AKC show people will "poo poo" the idea. Perhaps it is because they have to actually show their own dogs. Wow, what a novel idea! My experience with the AKC has been horrible and most of the time I have been confronted by very snooty and condescending people.
ARE YOU PROTECTED AS A DOG OWNER WITH AKC OR IS YOUR DOG BEING PUT AT RISK TO BE STOLEN AS A RESULT OF AKC'S REGISTRATION PROCESS?
GOOD ARTICLES ABOUT AKC
Cut and paste the following link for a good article about AKC breeder of merit and puppy mills:
I PERSONALLY HAVE HAD HORRIBLE EXPERIENCES WITH THE AKC AND IT'S SHOW PEOPLE. RENT "BEST IN SHOW". I FIND IT TO BE AN ACCURATE DEPICTION WHICH IS A VERY SAD THING INDEED. I HAVE FOUND A DOUBLE STANDARD VERY PREVALENT AMOUNG THE AKC PEOPLE. I WOULD BE HAPPY TO SHARE MY EMAILS, AND NUMBERS OF OTHERS FOR THEIR Experiences. I PREFER THE EUROPEON BREEDERS OVER ALL BUT A FEW NON AKC BREEDERS I HAVE MET HERE IN THE U.S. I APPRECIATE THEM FOR THEIR HONESTY. I BELIEVE THAT WHEN SO MUCH MONEY IS BEHIND THE DOGS, PEOPLE WILL BREED FOR THE RING; NOT HEALTH. AGAIN, MY OPINION BASED ON MY EXPERIENCES.
FULL BROTHER AND SISTER BREEDINGS? NO PROBLEM. YOU GOT THE MONEY AND YOU CAN BREED IT; AKC WILL REGISTER IT! PLEASE READ THE FOLLOWING OF RESPONSE FROM AKC ABOUT REGISTERING A FULL BROTHER SISTER BREEDING:
QUOTE: Inbreeding - The mating of two closely related dogs of the same breed.
Line breeding - The practice of mating a dog to a member of an earlier generation of the dog's bloodline.
Out crossing: The mating of two dogs of the same breed that are otherwise virtually unrelated.
The relationship between the sire and dam of the litter has no bearing on registration eligibility. Anyone who considers breeding their dog must consider many different factors. Breeding dogs that are closely related can cause certain characteristics, both desirable and undesirable, to be present in the offspring. There is no rule that prohibits inbreeding and line breeding; this is left to the discretion of individual breeders.
To find out more information about responsible breeding, please visit our website at http://www.akc.org/breeders/resp_breeding/steps_5.cfm. UNQUOTE
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FOLLOW THE MONEY > THE HANDLERS PAY A FEE TO THE AKC > THE HANDLERS GET CLIENTS WHO PAY SHOW ENTRIES > THE VENDORS COME THE SHOWS > PEOPLE STAY IN HOTELS AND EAT IN RESTAURANTS. HOW LONG DO YOU THINK PEOPLE WOULD PAY A HANDLER $100.00 + TO HANDLE THEIR DOGS IF THEY ARE NOT WINNING? I HAVE NOTICED THAT OVER IN EUROPE PEOPLE HANDLE THEIR OWN DOGS; MAKING IT A MUCH LEVEL VENUE IN MY OPINION.
AKC HANDLERS - EACH HANDLER PAYS A $250.00 TO BE REGISTERED ACCORDING TO THEIR WEBSITE: http://www.akc.org/handlers/links.cfm DO YOU REALLY BELIEVE YOU CAN WIN AGAINST THE MONEY? Here is an example of what AKC handlers may charge:
FOLLOW THE MONEY TRAIL. IT IS PRETTY CLEAR TO ME. AGAIN, MY OPINION BASED ON MY OBSERVATIONS AND CONVERSATIONS WITH PEOPLE AT SHOWS
BUYING A DOG UNDER CO-OWNERSHIP IS THE WORST POSSIBLE THING YOU CAN DO BASED ON MY EXPERIENCE WITH THESE BREEDERS. MY CONTRACT WAS BREACHED FOR MERELY SPEAKING WITH SOMEONE THE BREEDER DID NOT LIKE. IF YOU COMPLAIN; TUFF LUCK. TAKE MY ADVICE AND RUN. UNDER ACCORDING TO MY CO-OWNERSHIP I WAS TO BREED TWO LITTERS, GIVE TWO PUPPIES TO THE CO-OWNER AND PAY FOR EVERYTHING, VET, SHOW AND HANDLER FEES. THAT WOULD HAVE TOTALED UP TO APPOX. $7000.00 AND I WOULD HAVE BEEN RESPONSIBLE FOR ANYTHING THAT COULD GO WRONG? SOUND LIKE A GOOD DEAL TO YOU? IT DID NOT TO ME.
For all of you wondering; do you get points toward an AKC "champion" status by entering in the owner handler division? Why would anybody throw money away like this? It is very insulting to me as to why AKC would assume their membership to be so dumb. This only validates my opinion that the AKC is only in it for the money. Why would anybody give them money to enter shows which have absolutely no value in terms of "championship" points.
"AKC National Owner-Handled Series
AKC National Owner-Handled Series Point Scale
Note: AKC National Owner-Handled Series points do not contribute to championship points.
At an individual show a dog earns the cumulative number of AKC National Owner-Handled Series points associated with each placement. "